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"why horary doesn't make sense to me..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 11:25:08

Horary Astrology Horary Astrology all the way!Discuss specific horary questions and charts in their respective categories/subforums and general horary issues (theory techniques philosophy) in this board - scroll below all subforums to see the threads. Before starting a new thread please make sure you read the Ok.. So pretty much here's why I have a little bit of a beef with Horary. Lets say there's 2 astrologers at a metaphysical fair and they offer horary services.. they both take clients at the exact same time (yes I know this is kinda far fetched) and each client wants to know if their finances will improve. Now. seeing as that horary is based off of time and location both of these clients would recieve identical info. See where I'm going with this?? The reason I had included natal info in one of my last posts is because I had a chart done a few years back under the presumption it was an horary chart since I was wondering how my move I just made was going to affect things. The "astrologer" took my natal chart relocated it. AND progressed it. Any idea what kind of chart that results in?! But anyways. how does Horary work out in that scenario I presented. I mean there's no way each person would have the exact outcome but if based on standard Horary techniques they kinda would. right?? Thanks for any info guys just trying to make some more sense outta this!!Namaste,Choucho I'll let the more experienced horary astrologers take a crack at this. But. I think it has to do with the timing of the question. In horary it is my understanding that you note the time for when you first thought of this question that is very important to you to have answered. When you go to a fair and sit down and someone asks you "ok what would you like to ask" the time chosen is not the moment that you first ask this very important question. So the timing of the question which is of primary importance in horary is invalidated. And most likely in a fair situation you are just picking a topic that in general has importance for you so once again the time isn't for the first time this question is asked. I'll be interested to see if this is how others see it too. Hmmm. ok. but how many times does someone really want to know if their finances will improve or if a relationship is on the horizon?? Sooo in that sense you're only allowed to ask the question once in your life? I'm sure that's not the case and of course you would want some type of "break period" in there but ya see what I'm sayin... No you don't ask that question only once in your life. But YOU pick the moment when it is most pressing to run the chart. Not running the chart because you happen to be at a psychic fair and need a question to ask. A chart done when someone else asks you to ask a question is not YOU picking the moment of the question. Make sense? It would be very unlikely that the same question is asked at the same time and place however its an interesting thought. I imagine that for all the people in say eastern australia if there were fifty people asking a question about money at the same time the horary judgement would be the same. But hey there are a lot of people with the same monetary concerns I imagine. And another fifty people might ask the same question the next day and get different answers. It would be more realistic that fifty people would ask the question at different times and in different ways. When I did demonstration readings at fairs the intervals of time were quite short and even though people asked different questions the aspectrs and ascendant ruler was practically the same. Sometimes the significators were the same too however the questions were never the same. If somebody asks a question about their financial security there would most likely be good reason to explore the question further to get to the crux of the horary contract. Unless that is if it were a question about "is the check in the mail" "will I get the funding". "will I get the loan" "will the balif come around"; even these questions in the right context could be harbouring the real question underneath of "will I go bankrupt". Usually you can ask another question when something has significantly changed in you financial situation and that is related to the first question. The Horary "oracle" gets really pissed when you ask the same question over and over. Questions like "when will I have romance again" are common questions that get asked over and over by the same persons. Its hard when the answers always seem to say the same thing too. What does one do to change that kind horary answer? Answer: Get out and do something that changes the homeostasis. Interupt fate by having a say in it! kingsley Choucho,Your original question doesn't seem to take into account the rules for radicality of a horary chart- one of them being a need to feel invested in the situation.. this would not automatically happen at a *metaphysical fair*.. that would involve idle -question asking which is against horary rules. The points in a horary chart are in perpetual motion so no two charts would be exactly the same.. pars for example is faster than the moon. As well different houses would be involved... horary works but its not a simple practice-thats why William Lilly et al used a strict set of rules. Its not meant to be used for the asking of trivial questions. I for one would hate to see horary popularised to the extent where it was a sideshow act. Cheers. Lillyjgc To continue the line of thinking of previous respondents. EVEN if two persons ask the same question [or much similar] at the same time these questions could still be answered correctly by horary receiving the same answer as a mysterious basic rule of horary says that questions are not asked randomly but by following the law of resonance. Only persons who would feel compelled to ask a question would do so that is only those whose question would be in harmony with the astral configuration of the moment. Ok cool! Definitely makes much more sense now that I took into account for the whole "need" part of things! Spellworking pretty much works in the same way.. Not that the possibility of a scenario like that couldn't happen but based on the need it would still be interpreted to fit the person. Thanks for all the answers!! Hiquite honestly sometimes you want to get an answer you desire but you dont get it and you desparately looking for that YES. To make things even more complicated when you are emotionally involved with the matter or a querent. You wish them well but you dont see objectively what is the chart telling you or you are missing a piece of information even if the querent doesnt know!I run into that problem 7 months ago. What i was seeing in real life was not what i was seeing in a horary. Horary was right and wrong. It was right on the outcome but it wasnt right on description dignity speaking. So it totally stressed me out however because of accidental dignity the luck just tilted into my direction. I didnt get completely what i was after but i remember Sorehearted said that I will be in control of the situation at the end but i will not get what i want. Sorehearted and I were puzzled on why I was showing up in detriment or fall but at the end 4th house was super strong. There were only 2 possobilities of the outcome then we were seeing intercepted house with a ruler being its own sign the second possobility which was close to IMPOSSIBLE came through like a butter on hot toast. Horary didnt see the head on conflict. I run a chart on the situation just recently it went in flying colors which i wished to be in the situation 7 months ago i hope i explainedTik Hello to all,I have learnt in past few months that I have posted questions too late means maybe one or more days after the question came into my head. The answer was either Yes or No but was wrong in each case. In other things I am very quick if I lose something. In that case I look on my watch see the time write it and post the question. That is it! Then I get the right answer. I have learnt also that there is not the right time to ask something when Moon is VOC; AC too late too early; Moon Via Combusta; no connection between me and question; last aspect of Moon is bad and so on. Yelena If two people with the same true need/worry/question ask it at the same time they should get the same answer. I would think the same answer in this case is reasonable to me. Just two people in the many it is hardly a statistical deviation. Also remember the answer to different people regarding say financing can have different scale of application. If the answer to.. if they will improve,.. it most likely will have different amount of improvement to the same answer. Like 5% of 1000 is much different to 5% of 100Also remember in Elections we cunningly choose the time so as businesses evolve favourably! This is Engineering Astrology. What about say I think of a question regarding my relationship at 1:13pm. And at the time it is as pressing as ever.. and I think of another question regarding my finances at 1:15pm. Won't the charts look similar if not the same? stargazekid. Yes the charts would look similar but the *houses* that relate to the question would be different so different significators would be involved. And therefore the answers to both questions would be different hope that explains. Lillyjgc a good horay astrologer must do one thing firstassess the question to the chart to be valued (theres another name for it i forget)the chart must be correct tothe question presented first and one can see this before analysing it usually its the first and last few deg of a sign means the chart is not valadsat in the first and seventh is not to be valad and also void of course moon and so on im not sure about the saturn myself i think it does play a part in the overall outcome even if in asc or dec. 2 people asking same question same time to the astrologer like the other people here have said. the time one really needs to know the answer a question of importance will show up in a ligitamate chart that can be read its like someone lieing to you a astrologer can see this in the chart to a point william lillys guide is available online and its easy to understand,compared to some other teachings for me anyway. lol The question must be assessed for validity not the chart. The chart is ALWAYS valid if the question is genuine. All chart indications listed above (early/late Ascendant. Moon void of course. Saturn in the 1st or 7th house) are PART OF THE INTERPRETATION. The considerations before judgment are plain MYTHS in the case when the chart is cast for the moment the querent asks the question. These considerations MAY BE taken in account when the chart is set for the moment the question arrives (by any means) to the astrologer because it so becomes an EVENT chart that is the event of a horary reading. Many such considerations before judgment are just plain indications that the reading will not go smoothly but the astrologer may err because THE QUESTION is not genuine or true. Usually when the querent pays for the reading the question is genuine obviously... In my experience with horary readings I think I remember just one case when the question "has been tampered with" as the querent has asked the question on and on to several astrologers. Well it depends on who you appreciate as an expert. Read Frawley's book. "The Horary Textbook" he certainly is a worldwide known expert and he debunks considerations before judgment as myths. Other authors (mainly published in the 70s and 80s) take these consideration from Lilly for granted without giving them much thinking. I think there is an evolution of horary over time just as in any other field of human knowledge there is no point to rest glued to medieval thinking. Copyright © 2005-2006. AstrologyWeekly com. Boards' structure and all posts are property of AstrologyWeekly com and their respective creators. No part of the messages sent on these boards may be copied without their owners' explicit consent. Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4Copyright ©2000 - 2008. Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

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"why horary doesn't make sense to me..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 11:24:06

Horary Astrology Horary Astrology all the way!Discuss specific horary questions and charts in their respective categories/subforums and general horary issues (theory techniques philosophy) in this board - scroll below all subforums to see the threads. Before starting a new thread please make sure you read the Ok.. So pretty much here's why I have a little bit of a beef with Horary. Lets say there's 2 astrologers at a metaphysical fair and they offer horary services.. they both take clients at the exact same time (yes I know this is kinda far fetched) and each client wants to know if their finances will improve. Now. seeing as that horary is based off of time and location both of these clients would recieve identical info. See where I'm going with this?? The reason I had included natal info in one of my last posts is because I had a chart done a few years back under the presumption it was an horary chart since I was wondering how my move I just made was going to affect things. The "astrologer" took my natal chart relocated it. AND progressed it. Any idea what kind of chart that results in?! But anyways. how does Horary work out in that scenario I presented. I mean there's no way each person would have the exact outcome but if based on standard Horary techniques they kinda would. right?? Thanks for any info guys just trying to make some more sense outta this!!Namaste,Choucho I'll let the more experienced horary astrologers take a crack at this. But. I think it has to do with the timing of the question. In horary it is my understanding that you note the time for when you first thought of this question that is very important to you to have answered. When you go to a fair and sit down and someone asks you "ok what would you like to ask" the time chosen is not the moment that you first ask this very important question. So the timing of the question which is of primary importance in horary is invalidated. And most likely in a fair situation you are just picking a topic that in general has importance for you so once again the time isn't for the first time this question is asked. I'll be interested to see if this is how others see it too. Hmmm. ok. but how many times does someone really want to know if their finances will improve or if a relationship is on the horizon?? Sooo in that sense you're only allowed to ask the question once in your life? I'm sure that's not the case and of course you would want some type of "break period" in there but ya see what I'm sayin... No you don't ask that question only once in your life. But YOU pick the moment when it is most pressing to run the chart. Not running the chart because you happen to be at a psychic fair and need a question to ask. A chart done when someone else asks you to ask a question is not YOU picking the moment of the question. Make sense? It would be very unlikely that the same question is asked at the same time and place however its an interesting thought. I imagine that for all the people in say eastern australia if there were fifty people asking a question about money at the same time the horary judgement would be the same. But hey there are a lot of people with the same monetary concerns I imagine. And another fifty people might ask the same question the next day and get different answers. It would be more realistic that fifty people would ask the question at different times and in different ways. When I did demonstration readings at fairs the intervals of time were quite short and even though people asked different questions the aspectrs and ascendant ruler was practically the same. Sometimes the significators were the same too however the questions were never the same. If somebody asks a question about their financial security there would most likely be good reason to explore the question further to get to the crux of the horary contract. Unless that is if it were a question about "is the check in the mail" "will I get the funding". "will I get the loan" "will the balif come around"; even these questions in the right context could be harbouring the real question underneath of "will I go bankrupt". Usually you can ask another question when something has significantly changed in you financial situation and that is related to the first question. The Horary "oracle" gets really pissed when you ask the same question over and over. Questions like "when will I have romance again" are common questions that get asked over and over by the same persons. Its hard when the answers always seem to say the same thing too. What does one do to change that kind horary answer? Answer: Get out and do something that changes the homeostasis. Interupt fate by having a say in it! kingsley Choucho,Your original question doesn't seem to take into account the rules for radicality of a horary chart- one of them being a need to feel invested in the situation.. this would not automatically happen at a *metaphysical fair*.. that would involve idle -question asking which is against horary rules. The points in a horary chart are in perpetual motion so no two charts would be exactly the same.. pars for example is faster than the moon. As well different houses would be involved... horary works but its not a simple practice-thats why William Lilly et al used a strict set of rules. Its not meant to be used for the asking of trivial questions. I for one would hate to see horary popularised to the extent where it was a sideshow act. Cheers. Lillyjgc To continue the line of thinking of previous respondents. EVEN if two persons ask the same question [or much similar] at the same time these questions could still be answered correctly by horary receiving the same answer as a mysterious basic rule of horary says that questions are not asked randomly but by following the law of resonance. Only persons who would feel compelled to ask a question would do so that is only those whose question would be in harmony with the astral configuration of the moment. Ok cool! Definitely makes much more sense now that I took into account for the whole "need" part of things! Spellworking pretty much works in the same way.. Not that the possibility of a scenario like that couldn't happen but based on the need it would still be interpreted to fit the person. Thanks for all the answers!! Hiquite honestly sometimes you want to get an answer you desire but you dont get it and you desparately looking for that YES. To make things even more complicated when you are emotionally involved with the matter or a querent. You wish them well but you dont see objectively what is the chart telling you or you are missing a piece of information even if the querent doesnt know!I run into that problem 7 months ago. What i was seeing in real life was not what i was seeing in a horary. Horary was right and wrong. It was right on the outcome but it wasnt right on description dignity speaking. So it totally stressed me out however because of accidental dignity the luck just tilted into my direction. I didnt get completely what i was after but i remember Sorehearted said that I will be in control of the situation at the end but i will not get what i want. Sorehearted and I were puzzled on why I was showing up in detriment or fall but at the end 4th house was super strong. There were only 2 possobilities of the outcome then we were seeing intercepted house with a ruler being its own sign the second possobility which was close to IMPOSSIBLE came through like a butter on hot toast. Horary didnt see the head on conflict. I run a chart on the situation just recently it went in flying colors which i wished to be in the situation 7 months ago i hope i explainedTik Hello to all,I have learnt in past few months that I have posted questions too late means maybe one or more days after the question came into my head. The answer was either Yes or No but was wrong in each case. In other things I am very quick if I lose something. In that case I look on my watch see the time write it and post the question. That is it! Then I get the right answer. I have learnt also that there is not the right time to ask something when Moon is VOC; AC too late too early; Moon Via Combusta; no connection between me and question; last aspect of Moon is bad and so on. Yelena If two people with the same true need/worry/question ask it at the same time they should get the same answer. I would think the same answer in this case is reasonable to me. Just two people in the many it is hardly a statistical deviation. Also remember the answer to different people regarding say financing can have different scale of application. If the answer to.. if they will improve,.. it most likely will have different amount of improvement to the same answer. Like 5% of 1000 is much different to 5% of 100Also remember in Elections we cunningly choose the time so as businesses evolve favourably! This is Engineering Astrology. What about say I think of a question regarding my relationship at 1:13pm. And at the time it is as pressing as ever.. and I think of another question regarding my finances at 1:15pm. Won't the charts look similar if not the same? stargazekid. Yes the charts would look similar but the *houses* that relate to the question would be different so different significators would be involved. And therefore the answers to both questions would be different hope that explains. Lillyjgc a good horay astrologer must do one thing firstassess the question to the chart to be valued (theres another name for it i forget)the chart must be correct tothe question presented first and one can see this before analysing it usually its the first and last few deg of a sign means the chart is not valadsat in the first and seventh is not to be valad and also void of course moon and so on im not sure about the saturn myself i think it does play a part in the overall outcome even if in asc or dec. 2 people asking same question same time to the astrologer like the other people here have said. the time one really needs to know the answer a question of importance will show up in a ligitamate chart that can be read its like someone lieing to you a astrologer can see this in the chart to a point william lillys guide is available online and its easy to understand,compared to some other teachings for me anyway. lol The question must be assessed for validity not the chart. The chart is ALWAYS valid if the question is genuine. All chart indications listed above (early/late Ascendant. Moon void of course. Saturn in the 1st or 7th house) are PART OF THE INTERPRETATION. The considerations before judgment are plain MYTHS in the case when the chart is cast for the moment the querent asks the question. These considerations MAY BE taken in account when the chart is set for the moment the question arrives (by any means) to the astrologer because it so becomes an EVENT chart that is the event of a horary reading. Many such considerations before judgment are just plain indications that the reading will not go smoothly but the astrologer may err because THE QUESTION is not genuine or true. Usually when the querent pays for the reading the question is genuine obviously... In my experience with horary readings I think I remember just one case when the question "has been tampered with" as the querent has asked the question on and on to several astrologers. Well it depends on who you appreciate as an expert. Read Frawley's book. "The Horary Textbook" he certainly is a worldwide known expert and he debunks considerations before judgment as myths. Other authors (mainly published in the 70s and 80s) take these consideration from Lilly for granted without giving them much thinking. I think there is an evolution of horary over time just as in any other field of human knowledge there is no point to rest glued to medieval thinking. Copyright © 2005-2006. AstrologyWeekly com. Boards' structure and all posts are property of AstrologyWeekly com and their respective creators. No part of the messages sent on these boards may be copied without their owners' explicit consent. Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4Copyright ©2000 - 2008. Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

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"Horary Astrology :: Are we destined?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-06 22:17:03

Welcome to the MysticBoard comYou are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and find our other features. By joining our free community you ordain have access to post topics communicate privately with other members (PM) act to polls upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast simple and absolutely free so gratify connect our community today! Hi,I was wondering if someone could tell me if my furnish and i are destined to be together? I am going to Canada next week and communicate about my relationship with him in more detail. and i really hope things go good from my end as things are going great with his family my birth date details are: Nov 24. 1983Calgary. Canada9amHis birth details are:Sept 7 1979London. Englandand unsure of time. aprox 5pm. Because of his unknown birth measure its been hard to get an accurate predicition. but this is very important to both of us. we both want to get married. hopefully sometime next year. i'm just scared about my families reaction. I really hope i get a response soon. it would mean alot! thanksNA come up first off this is a horary divide and horary has some strict rules to it. I haven't read the sticky for this section in some time and so I can't say just how much it tells you but generally a horary question is composed for the go out time and place someone asks a question seriously for the first measure. Such questions as 'Are we destined?' and 'Is he the one?' are probably not going to be accurately recorded unless you think it and go 'I should make this a horary chart better sight a measure!' right after it. You don't mention how desire you've known your furnish but I'm going to just anticipate you've thought of this before whether he was the one for you. Perhaps a more appropriate question would have been 'Will I obtain the results hoped for?' regarding going to seriously speak to him about the relationship. Now if you were looking for a synastry or Davison reading (don't you do that composite now) which I evaluate you may undergo actually been searching for since instead of supplying the required data for a horary you supplied the data necessay for such charts then that's something else entirely. Hi Sei no Senshi,Thanks for your say. i evaluate i see where i am going wrong now ok well i do want to find out if my bf and i are to get married in the near future. I am back domiciliate now and about to bring it up in the next week or so and just am scared about how my family is going to react. If i was to rephrase my challenge as you suggested.. Am I going to achieve a positive prove with my family regarding my bf? is that more direct? But in this moment in measure which is 8:27pm mountain time on Dec 19th. 2007. We undergo known eachother for 7-8 months now and are seriously thinking about getting married my birth info is nov 24th 19839am mountain timecalgary canadaand his issept 7. 1979uk londonbetween 4-5pmSo basically i am asking are me and my bf going to get married? And that too with everyone's blessings? thank you. please change by reversal me if i have done this wrong again!NA No problem the first time is always the hardest because you don't normally know what you're doing!The only thing I see do by now is that you're asking two questions in one which splits the focus we can't have that. So you're going to have to figure out what's more important to you. You two ultimately getting married or your family's feelings towards the union.

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"Horary Astrology :: RE: Will my foreign venture be succesful or ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-30 19:49:58

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"Horary Astrology :: RE: Will my foreign venture be succesful or ..." posted by ~Ray
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"Horary Astrology :: RE: Will my foreign venture be succesful or ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-30 19:43:15

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"Horary Astrology :: RE: Will my foreign venture be succesful or ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-30 19:43:11

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"Horary Astrology :: RE: Will my foreign venture be succesful or ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-30 19:42:56

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"Horary Astrology :: RE: Will my foreign venture be succesful or ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-30 19:42:56

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Posted on 2007-12-30 19:42:40

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